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curi's Progress

This topic is for posting what I write about in the comments. Topic, word count, and maybe date if I'm posting it late. I may also mention other activities.

Elliot Temple on October 9, 2019

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I wrote 1001 words on Project Planning. I freewrote like 1350 words, mostly about ppl being bad at stuff like arithmetic. That's a pretty normal morning for me. Now it's lunch time. Later today, in general, I'd want to do another productive session, but often something different, e.g. FI/curi replies or streaming/chatting/reading/listening/watching. That's in addition to doing stuff throughout the day, e.g. I'll often check new FI posts when they come in, or as small breaks from other stuff, once I'm past my morning writing. (I'll also often check FI posts, curi comments, and various online stuff, when I wake up, but only stuff that isn't very distracting or hard, otherwise I save it until after my main writing. So that usually includes short replies but not long replies). Today I'm doing consulting later.

2350 words + 2 hours consulting (+ some prep) + whatever misc stuff I do during the day (e.g. I saw Ella replied re AGI, I expect I'll get to that) = enough for a day. While I can push for more, that's tiring. The bottleneck is mental energy/focus/attention/creativity, not time. And I need to save enough mental energy to do non-braindead stuff pretty much all day or else I get bored. I'll be playing some Vindictus today as a (relatively) easy and different thing which is skill-based and interesting. I read a lot of fiction recently but currently I want a break from that (partly it's tiring to read a ton, partly I found a bunch of flaws in Bujold and idk if I wanna read more from her, but I don't have other fiction to read.) I just realized South Park started again, so now I have 2 TV shows to watch (the other is Succession). Actually as I wrote this I just realized I should check when Mountain Men and Life Below Zero seasons start, and there are actually a bunch of eps already out. Other than that I can watch speedrun stuff and maybe a Vindictus stream, which I'd mostly use as a multitask, not a primary activity.

curi at 1:38 PM on October 9, 2019 | #13758 | reply | quote

I've been doing lots of writing privately lately, but yesterday I shared a writing sample:

**Paths Forward vs. Closed and Certain**


curi at 1:56 PM on October 9, 2019 | #13759 | reply | quote

I wrote 600 words on project planning and 1800 words on simplicity and complexity (trying to understand them in a context-independent way). Lunch time now.

Played vindi less than i wanted yesterday. Will do that later. Might start recording or steaming some vindi video at some point.

Plan to do something else philosophy related later today. Undecided on what.

curi at 12:53 PM on October 10, 2019 | #13766 | reply | quote

I wrote 530 words about complexity and 640 freewrite.

curi at 7:33 PM on October 11, 2019 | #13776 | reply | quote

I wrote 550 on not starting questions/discussion at zero and 800 on impasses.

curi at 8:08 PM on October 12, 2019 | #13781 | reply | quote

I wrote 1320 on discussion impasses, what they are and how to rationally handle them with some examples. I don't think it's good enough for people to understand it and use it who don't already know a lot about my views on the matter. It's just exploratory writing to get my own ideas written down more. Helping people significantly is hard and is somewhat of a separate issue than figuring it out myself and writing that down.

Having a busy weekend.

curi at 11:52 AM on October 13, 2019 | #13789 | reply | quote

Wrote 3160 on YesNo.

Sent out newsletter #97 to 607 people.

Today, Project Veritas put out their video with a CNN insider. I want to watch that soon. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m7XZmugtLv4

curi at 1:54 PM on October 14, 2019 | #13793 | reply | quote

I had a new idea tonight and wrote an additional 1500 words on Criticism Quality Perceptions.

curi at 12:25 AM on October 15, 2019 | #13795 | reply | quote

Wrote 300 summarizing the Criticism Quality Perceptions ideas and 1730 more about YesNo.

curi at 12:31 PM on October 15, 2019 | #13801 | reply | quote

Keep this thread for on-topic messages.

curi at 5:16 PM on October 15, 2019 | #13804 | reply | quote

Wrote 1500 re YesNo.

curi at 12:22 PM on October 16, 2019 | #13806 | reply | quote

Added 550 words of additional thoughts on YesNo. It's one monster paragraph. I write overly long paragraphs reasonably often when doing exploratory writing because I'm mostly focused on the ideas, not on how to organize the ideas.

curi at 1:48 PM on October 16, 2019 | #13807 | reply | quote

Did stream #36 last night for 95 min. It's currently blocked due to a false copyright claim:


Today I wrote 2600 words on discussion impasses and last words.

curi at 12:38 PM on October 17, 2019 | #13821 | reply | quote

Wrote 1100 more expanding on the same topic and figuring out a lead to write about next time. Break time now.

curi at 1:23 PM on October 17, 2019 | #13822 | reply | quote

Wrote 2100 words re rational discussion. Posted it:


curi at 1:07 PM on October 18, 2019 | #13830 | reply | quote

Wrote another 750 about YesNo.

curi at 4:35 PM on October 18, 2019 | #13832 | reply | quote

I wrote 1000 words on tracking discussions. I'm currently deciding what to do with it: free, sell, contributors-only. Free but also make a video and sell that? Bundle it with other stuff (e.g. that video or other material about how to think and discuss rationally) to have a larger thing to sell?

Free *because* it's useful to people, something people should read, practical stuff that'll help people discuss better and which I want them to do?

Sell at a token price *because* people take stuff more seriously if they buy it instead of it being free? A downside is that a token price is a problem for some people, particularly young people who don't yet have jobs, have unsupportive parents, and may not have good access to spending money online.

Free *because* I'm already getting a decent amount of monthly contributions so there's less need to sell stuff?

Sell *because* it's really useful, practical, helpful? Kinda the same reason I want to give it away is a reason it'd be easier to sell. Like I can sell advanced, niche stuff because it's optional anyway, but then it doesn't sell a lot. If I sell beginner stuff then it's a barrier to entry but also easier to sell.

Having some main, adequate material for free, then some extras which are sold, is a thing i've done before. E.g. free grammar essay, charge for the videos going over it, but you could learn from it by itself without the videos. I think when you do this, the people who most need the videos (the worst people who are most struggling to understand) will often be the people least willing to buy them. The videos are an easier sell to the people who already understand the material decently. That's a bit backwards :/

Charging money, even token amounts, also helps screen people and get rid of unserious people. Filtering can be a positive, but there can also be errors where the wrong people get filtered because they don't have or understand money and also don't say so and don't ask for a discount or free copy or whatever.

If I want to sell it, I think I should do an editing pass. It'd offer value as-is, but I still think some editing would be good.


Comments on this would be appreciated.

curi at 2:20 PM on October 19, 2019 | #13842 | reply | quote

I also wrote 550 words about impasse chains today and 350 about paths forward filters.

I'm still up for doing something else philosophical today. Maybe I'll stream and finish the Reisman book on socialized medicine.

curi at 4:51 PM on October 19, 2019 | #13848 | reply | quote

Streamed last night. Finished Reisman book. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ilf3DTgymnM&list=PLKx6lO5RmaeuXinlXLiZtm16HNE20KPdL

Today, wrote 2800 re objective testing in discussions.

Doing some philosophy consulting today.

curi at 12:29 PM on October 20, 2019 | #13868 | reply | quote

Wrote 550 on discussing specifics vs. big picture. Wrote 250 adding 8 more paths forward filters to the 3 I listed two days ago. Freewrote 1200.

curi at 3:03 PM on October 21, 2019 | #13875 | reply | quote

250 words on tracking discussions, 3500 on error patterns.

curi at 1:52 PM on October 22, 2019 | #13903 | reply | quote

> Sell at a token price *because* people take stuff more seriously if they buy it instead of it being free?

That is not a good way to measure how serious someone is about a topic.

Anonymous at 2:01 PM on October 22, 2019 | #13904 | reply | quote

#13904 The purpose of that idea is not to measure seriousness, it's to help create seriousness. Most people create more of their own seriousness when they pay. (That wouldn't be the only purpose of charging money.)

curi at 2:04 PM on October 22, 2019 | #13905 | reply | quote

Wrote another 200 freewrite and 1800 about an example Malcom Gladwell passage where he makes a big error which you can find mainly by understanding what you read. The method of actually figuring out the meaning of what you read, and understanding what it's saying about reality, is really powerful. It sounds basic but most of the time people just don't do that.

Later I might stream looking at Rand Paul's new book *The Case Against Socialism*. But maybe I'll be too tired instead, idk.

curi at 4:51 PM on October 22, 2019 | #13906 | reply | quote

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