Fallible Ideas Discussion

The Fallible Ideas discussion group is currently active (link) and discusses philosophy and its implications, especially the ideas of Elliot Temple, David Deutsch, Karl Popper and Ayn Rand. The discussion group started in 2013 and this archive goes through 2018.

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Beginning of Infinity Discussion

The Beginning of Infinity is a book by David Deutsch. The discussion group studied and analyzed its philosophy and implications from 2011 to 2017.


Note: The PDF is very large (18,493 pages). See the notes above about large documents.

Taking Children Seriously Discussion

Taking Children Seriously (TCS) is a parenting and educational philosophy invented David Deutsch and contributed to by Elliot Temple. This email discussion archive goes from 2002 through 2015. After that, TCS discussions have taken place at the Fallible Ideas group.


Note: The PDF is very large (25,054 pages). See the notes above about large documents.


  • Elliot Temple discusses life extension and philosophy with Aubrey de Grey (210 pages: ePub, Kindle, PDF)
  • Elliot Temple discusses philosophy with Robert Spillane (92 pages: ePub, Kindle, PDF)
  • Elliot Temple discusses philosophy with the Less Wrong forum (370 page PDF)
  • Fallible Ideas emails about Kant. Mostly it's analysis and research by Elliot (41 page PDF)
  • Fallible Ideas emails criticizing posts by Lulie Tanett and Ray Scott Percival related to Critical Rationalism. The emails do detailed textual analysis and point out bad arguments, dishonesty and social climbing. (565 page PDF)
  • Fallible Ideas Discord discussions with Felix the Cat and Hopenager from Aug 2019. Shows different ways people fail at philosophy. Good practice material for finding logical errors and social dynamics. Contains some extended explanations of ideas by Elliot. Elliot also explained part of the Felix discussion at length in this analysis video. (112 pages: PDF, HTML, text)

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