@curi42 @DavidDeutschOxf @RutiRegan B/c it's self-destructive for a Jew not to be in favour of Israel, and sad for US that B sucks so much?You know what's way sadder for the US? That Hillary and Obama want to destroy Israel. They're way more important.
AIPAC betrayed Israel on the Iran deal. AIPAC continues to work to help the left, not Israel. And they still get snubbed by Bernie anyway.
You know what's really worrying? That a supposedly pro-Israel group won't call out and condemn Bernie, Hillary or Obama. What's worrying is AIPAC being thought by most people to actually be pro-Israel. With "friends" like AIPAC and ADL, we're in big trouble.
What's worrying is the Democrat who is actually going to win the nomination is extremely anti-semitic – and merely going and giving a speech at AIPAC has DD off her back and focusing on the wrong issue.
Reality: Obama, Hillary and Bernie all want to destroy Israel. Everyone willing to know this kind of thing has known it since, say, 2009. Bernie skipping AIPAC is a minor non-event that makes no difference to the overall dynamics.
You know what's more worrying that Bernie skipping? Type AIPAC in google and the top hit right now for me is: "AIPAC condemns Trump attack on Obama".
That's a much bigger problem than Bernie. But everyone should have already known AIPAC is part of the problem.
You know what actually kinda worries me? That not even Cruz, who is by FAR the best on Israel of the candidates (including all the ones who dropped out already), would boycott AIPAC for its treachery. When the best politicians we have won't stand up to AIPAC, that's kinda scary. (When the worst won't stand up to AIPAC for the OPPOSITE REASONS... who cares?)
DD and Woty think it's worrying that an anti-semite skipped a lefty event for not being far enough to the left. They are painting a false picture of reality in which AIPAC isn't lefty. They are part of the problem. What AIPAC does is give cover to bad people. Yet DD and Woty are pressuring AIPAC to appease the left even more – to somehow be more inclusive – when AIPAC ought to go the other direction and start having some standards. DD and Woty are missing or denying the reality that AIPAC has already gone waaaaaaay too far left – well into the territory of routinely aiding evil.
Why not give money to Israel through voluntary contribution and not through extortion ( Taxes ) ?
> Why not give money to Israel through voluntary contribution and not through extortion ( Taxes ) ?
What does this have to do with the subject of the post?
It has nothing to do with the subject. But tell me is it fair to give American tax payer money to Israel?
It's fair to spend American tax payer money on cooperative military projects with allies.
Some consider Israel to be Evil.
some people are anti-semites. wtf is your point?
do you mean that hating Israel is defensible? it isn't.
> do you mean that hating Israel is defensible? it isn't.
Hating anyone without reason is stupid.
It is not about hating Israel.. Why should US citizens pay for Israel?
Why not create a charity to help Israel through voluntary contribution?
military alliances for mutual benefit are government business. calling it "aid" is misnaming it.
> military alliances for mutual benefit are government business. calling it "aid" is misnaming it.
Donald Trump views it differently.. I kinda agree with him..
He will make South Korea and others pay for the service. Isn't that better?
i don't know if we should give south korea a worse deal than we do currently, or not. north korea is a big problem. i haven't studied this.
My guess would be we should give Israel a better deal. they are super important in the fight against jihad. our cooperation with israel has been harmed by anti-semites like obama. we should work more closely with Israel.
Israel gives us stuff like military intelligence and technology. we aren't just giving them freebies.
Netanyahu is better than Trump in some substantial ways. Israel is the best in the world at some stuff that we need to improve at. no other country particularly stands out as doing better than the US in some crucial ways.