Adding 5+5 is an example of a computation. Why? By definition. "Computation" is a word which refers to calculating stuff like sums, matrix multiplication, binary logic operations, derivatives, etc.

Are all computations math? Sorta. Consider this computation:

(concatenate "cat" "dog")

Which outputs: "catdog"

The format I used is: (function data-1 data-2). That's the best format programmers have invented so far. There can be any number of pieces of data including zero. Quotes indicate a string. And for data you can also put a function which returns data. That's nesting, e.g:

(concatenate "meow" (concatenate "cat" "dog"))

Which outputs: "meowcatdog"

Is that math? It can be done by math. E.g. you can assign each letter a number and manipulate lists of numbers, which is what a Mac or PC would do to deal with this. If you're interested in this topic, you might like reading Godel, Escher, Bach which discusses numeric representations.

But a human might calculate string concatenation in a different way, e.g. by writing each string on a piece of paper and then computing concatenations by taping pieces of paper together.

Humans have a lot of ways to do sums too. E.g. you can compute 5+5 using groups of marbles. If you want to know more about this, you should read David Deutsch's discussion of roman numerals in The Beginning of Infinity, as well as the rest of his books.

Moving on, computation is sorta like math but not exactly. You can think of computation as math or stuff that could be done with math.

A computer is a physical object which can do computations.

We can see that human intelligence involves computation because I can ask you "what is 5+5?" and you can tell me without even using a tool like a calculator. You can do it mentally. So either brains are computers or brains contain computers plus something else. There has to be a computer there somewhere because anything that can add 5+5 is a computer.

But we don't really care about an object which can add 5+5 but which can't compute anything else.

We're interested in computers which can do many different computations. Add lots of different numbers, multiply any matrices, find primes, and even do whatever math or math-equivalent it takes to write and send emails!

We want a *general purpose* computer. And human intelligence has that too. Humans can mentally compute all sorts of stuff like integrals, factoring, finding the area of shapes, or logic operations like AND, NOT, OR, XOR.

When we say "computer" we normally refer to general purpose computers. Specifically, *universal classical computers*.

A **universal** computer is a computer than can compute **anything that can be computed**. "Classical" refers to computers which don't use quantum physics. Quantum physics allows some additional computations if you build a special *quantum computer*.

A universal computer sounds really amazing and difficult to create. It sounds really special. But there's something really interesting. All general purpose computers are universal. It only takes a tiny bit of basic functionality to reach universality.

Every iPhone, Android phone, Mac, or PC is a universal computer. Even microwaves and dishwashers use universal computers to control them. The computer in a microwave can do any computation that a $100,000 supercomputer can do. (The microwave computer would take longer and you'd have to plug in extra disks periodically for computations that deal with a lot of data.)

All it takes to be a universal computer is being able to compute one single function: NAND. NAND takes two inputs, each of which is a 1 or 0, and it computes one output, a 1 or 0. NAND stands for "not and" and the rule is: return a 1 if *not both* inputs are 1.

That's it. You can use NAND to do addition, matrix multiplication, and send emails. You just have to build up the complexity step by step.

There are many other ways to achieve universality. For example, a computer which can compute AND and NOT, individually, is also universal. Being able to do NOT and OR also works. (Again these are simple functions which only have 1's and 0's as inputs and outputs.) If you want to see how they work, there are "truth tables" here which show lists of what the outputs are for all possible inputs: Wikipedia Link.

We can see that the computer aspect of humans is universal because humans can mentally compute NAND, AND and NOT. That's more than enough to indicate universal computation.

To make this more concrete, you can ask me what (AND 1 1) is and I can tell you 1. You can ask me (NOT 0) and I can tell you 1. You can ask me (NAND 1 1) and I can tell you 0. I can do that in my head, no problem. You could too (at least if you learned how). You're capable.

So human thinking works by either:

Universal classical computation; or

Universal classical computation as well as

*something else*.

I don't think there's a *something else* because there's nothing humans do, think, say, etc, which requires *something else* to explain how it's possible. And because no one has proposed any *something else* that makes sense. I don't believe in magical souls, and I'm certainly not going to start believing in them in order to say, "Humans have a universal classical computer plus a soul, which lets them do exactly the same things a universal classical computer with no soul can do.". That'd be silly. And I don't think an iPhone has a soul in the silicon.

The brains of dogs, cats, parrots and monkeys are also universal classical computers. Remember, that's a low bar. It's actually really hard to make a computer do much of anything *without* making it universal. You can read about Universal Cellular Automata and how little it takes to get universality if you're interested. How easy universality is to achieve, and how there's an abrupt jump to it (rather than there being half-universal computers) is also explained in __The Beginning of Infinity__.

I won't go into arguing that cat brains are universal computers here. What I will say, briefly, is in what way humans are different than cats. It's kinda like how a PC is different than an iPhone. It has a different operating system and different apps. That's the basic difference between a person and a cat: different software. The hardware is different too, but the hardware fundamentally has the same capabilities, just like iPhones and PCs have different hardware with the same fundamental capabilities: they can do exactly the same computations. Humans have intelligence software of some sort – software which does intelligent thinking. Cats don't.

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## Typo

> A computer is a physical objection which can do computations.

should be "object" not "objection".

## David Deutsch quotes on Computation

https://twitter.com/daviddeutschoxf/status/1077159848511524864?lang=en

> I should have stressed in BoI that computational universality is a property of hardware; explanatory universality is a property of software.

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https://twitter.com/daviddeutschoxf/status/1048514368097439745

> computer/brain/universality of computation <- HARDWARE

enjoy/learning/ideas/happy/settle/compromise/knowledge <- SOFTWARE

Universal hardware supports any software.

Hence. for all X, the universality of computation does not guarantee that a human brain will X.

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DD's audio interview with CBC's

*Tapestry*:https://www.cbc.ca/radio/tapestry/the-new-human-1.4696724/oxford-physicist-predicts-ai-will-be-human-in-all-but-name-1.4696754

> Well of course, all information processing is physical. It's done by some physical object. But the idea that it needs to be biological is just a fancy. Because of what I just said, biological systems are physical systems and their abilities can be simulated with arbitrary accuracy by a computer. And when I say simulated, I don't mean mimicked--I mean that the information processing is the same. All computers in regard to information are fundamentally the same and all information processors are a kind of computer.

## Correction to second quote above

Correction to above quote re: HARDWARE and SOFTWARE:

https://twitter.com/daviddeutschoxf/status/1048514368097439745

> computer/brain/universality of computation <- HARDWARE

> enjoy/learning/ideas/happy/settle/compromise/knowledge <- SOFTWARE

> Universal hardware supports any software.

> Hence. for all X, the universality of computation does not guarantee that a human brain will X.

## Hi Mr Curi

Hey Curi,

Where is the software that runs the human brain stored (obviously I know it is stored in the brain). I guess what I mean to ask is the software that runs our brain separate from the current computational state of our brain?

Would you say that we are defined by the stored software + the current computational state of our brain?

Or are we simply defined by the current computational state of our brain?

I'm still working through The Beginning of Infinity and working on my arguments for animal rights btw. Slow progress is still progress haha

> Would you say that we are defined by the stored software + the current computational state of our brain?

That leaves out memory. We store lots of non-software information too.

Some software is stored in neuron connection patterns. I don't know all the hardware mechanisms used.

curiat 11:50 AM on February 14, 2020 | #15456 | reply | quote